Fuel additives and power adders

[996.5T]

Just wondering what fuel additives that everyone was using? I started using stanadyne this week and it has only added 1.3 miles to my mpg is that normal or should it be more? Is any one running the #9 restor and is it easy to install?

[Craig]

I do not know what is best, but 1.3 mpg increase in impressive. You really need to run 2 - 3 tanks to make an accurate comparison in mpg.

[smoken]

Hey man i found this additive in walmart. Ya i know walmart. Its called Power Services by Slick 50. It incressed my fuel milage and added power to my truck. It also cleans injectors and acts like a staybill for fuel and it is injector safe. I been using it and im getting 450 miles to the tank around town and 520 on the highway. Also i got a heavy foot. Makes the truck smokes a little when you get on it, but its not a black smoke. Its the healthy gray.

[Husker 6.5]

Just wondering what fuel additives that everyone was using? I started using stanadyne this week and it has only added 1.3 miles to my mpg is that normal or should it be more? Is any one running the #9 restor and is it easy to install?

Try Diesel Kleen by Diesel Services. It contains Cetane enhancers, which give you more complete combustion and hence greater power and fuel milage. Enhancing cetane is important, as the new USLD is often times derived from leftover #2 heating oil base stocks from the winter heating season, this time of year, which have low cetane content as they are less refined fractions. The Feds do not have the same degree of fuel standards in place for diesel as they do for gasoline, so cetane content varies widely in #2 diesel, and it is the cetane that is the "catalyst " for combustion, the high the easier to ignite under compression.

It also contains lubricants for the IP and injectors, corrosion inhibitors, and cleans injectors, too. Diesel Services has their own R&D lab, does their own formulation and testing, manufacturing, marketing and distribution. Unlike others, they are not their label on someone else's product. They have a whole line of products including anti-gels, etc. Good stuff, several OTR truckers I know use only their products, and swear by them.

Husker 6.5

[Black6.5L1TON]

Try Diesel Kleen by Diesel Services. It contains Cetane enhancers, which give you more complete combustion and hence greater power and fuel milage. Enhancing cetane is important, as the new USLD is often times derived from leftover #2 heating oil base stocks from the winter heating season, this time of year, which have low cetane content as they are less refined fractions. The Feds do not have the same degree of fuel standards in place for diesel as they do for gasoline, so cetane content varies widely in #2 diesel, and it is the cetane that is the "catalyst " for combustion, the high the easier to ignite under compression.

It also contains lubricants for the IP and injectors, corrosion inhibitors, and cleans injectors, too. Diesel Services has their own R&D lab, does their own formulation and testing, manufacturing, marketing and distribution. Unlike others, they are not their label on someone else's product. They have a whole line of products including anti-gels, etc. Good stuff, several OTR truckers I know use only their products, and swear by them.

Husker 6.5

Where can I get this at? I was using Castle additive but I didnt notice any gains other than the engine was alittle quieter but not any more quiet than running Lucus. Id like to give this a try. Im only getting about 385-390 miles to a tank (damn 4.10s) Thanks

Jeremy

[harold]

You can buy it at Walmart or O'reillys parts store.

[Husker 6.5]

Where can I get this at? I was using Castle additive but I didnt notice any gains other than the engine was alittle quieter but not any more quiet than running Lucus. Id like to give this a try. Im only getting about 385-390 miles to a tank (damn 4.10s) Thanks

Jeremy

Try any of your local truckstops. Try Advance Autoparts, Pep Boys, Walmart. I just grab some at the truckstop I get my cheap diesel ($3.01.9) at.

Husker 6.5

[sootjunkie65]

I mix up a quart of ATF and about 3/8 of a quart of diesel kleen and dump that in the tank ( 34 gallons) The ATF replaces the sulpher and whatever else they pulled out of the new fuel and also lubricated the injector pump, the diesel kleen is a cetane booster/antigel formula plus it also lubricates everything and cleans the injectors. Im getting between 19 and 23 MPG with this setup and im loving it oh by the way diesel up around my area is about $2.87

[Craig]

I am trying 1 qrt of ATF for the first time. I got 15.5 on the last tank. (4.10's) mostly city driving with AC on. (Live in S FL). Will get back with the mpg after next fill up. I think ATF is a good cleaner, not sure if it will help mpg much.


Diesel $2.95 down here.

[AGNSCODY]

My grandfather gave me and told me the best additive was alecide. You can usually find this at your local farm and seed store. I have never heard of the ATF, is there any particular type of ATF? Also does the ATF not clog the fuel filters?

[Bluevee33]

I noticed a power increase with the Diesel Kleen!! Buy it buy the gallon at Walmart for about $13 a gal!!

Diesel Here in Yamhill, OR aka Hicktown, USA!! is $2.99/gal! Oh Yeah we can't pump our own fuel either!!

You didn't hear this but... Living in a small farm town, the gas station uses the same pump/tank for on-road/off-road diesel.. Non Dyed!! So.. I bring gas cans and get undyed off-road diesel for $2.69/gal!! Then I get to pump my own fuel at home!!

[grancito]

Years ago I met someone who ran home heating oil in his rabbit, without problems but I understand that it needs some oil added.

[Craig]

I am trying 1 qrt of ATF for the first time. I got 15.5 on the last tank. (4.10's) mostly city driving with AC on. (Live in S FL). Will get back with the mpg after next fill up. I think ATF is a good cleaner, not sure if it will help mpg much.


Diesel $2.95 down here.


Ok, just refilled. Got 17.16 mpg. This time I added one quart of new motor oil for the first time. I am experimenting, with different additives and will share my results as you all have.

I have a new engine, 2500 miles, so it is a good test bed. Since it is not all gummed up, ashed up or clogged up injectors.

One other note, for the first time today, I noticed a sticker on the pump indicating low sulfur. I may have been getting it before and not seen any notices.

I am going to Wallmart and get the additives mentioned too.

[grancito]

Motor oil is not designed to be burned, it will leave deposits in the combustion chambers, like it does on the spark plugs of a warn gas burner. You can use 2 stroke oil, it is designed to burn clean.

[Craig]

You have a valid point about motor oil vs 2 stroke. I wanted to try it anyway. I even discussed it with some techi guys I know last week and they thought 2 cycle oil would be good too. I will be trying it most likely on my next tank. How many ounces to my 34 gallon tank do you recomend? Also, does 2 stroke oil raise the cetane level? Does it have any cleaning properties? I am going to try some other products too.

[grancito]

Use a quart, it must have some cleaning qualities for the 2 stroke engines, but will burn clean. Oil has higher calorific value than diesel, but you are not adding much so won't see a lot of fuel consumption difference unless the motor is worn and the the upper cylinder lubrication could help. Try some castor oil, get it from a pharmacy, you don't need much, I ran it in go-carts, it really ups the compression and the exhaust smells of the race track, which is the smell there.

[Chevylover]

You have a valid point about motor oil vs 2 stroke. I wanted to try it anyway. I even discussed it with some techi guys I know last week and they thought 2 cycle oil would be good too. I will be trying it most likely on my next tank. How many ounces to my 34 gallon tank do you recomend? Also, does 2 stroke oil raise the cetane level? Does it have any cleaning properties? I am going to try some other products too.
Run about 1 quart of 2-stroke-oil in a short bed tank (98,8 liters). If you got a long bed, you should run about 1,5 quarts of 2-stroke-oil in a 34 gal. tank.

Last refill i got here in germany was 12,9 liters per 100 km -> should be about 18,1 mpg highway and outside city.

With city driving a got about 15 liters per 100 km -> should be about 15,6 mpg.

Cu,
Sven

[Craig]

Use a quart, it must have some cleaning qualities for the 2 stroke engines, but will burn clean. Oil has higher calorific value than diesel, but you are not adding much so won't see a lot of fuel consumption difference unless the motor is worn and the the upper cylinder lubrication could help. Try some castor oil, get it from a pharmacy, you don't need much, I ran it in go-carts, it really ups the compression and the exhaust smells of the race track, which is the smell there.

Castor oil, some of the guys way back when I raced Jet Ski's used castor oil or castor bean oil as their 2 stroke oil. It did smell pretty good. So, castor oil from the rx, how much per qrt is it?

[grancito]

I have no idea of the price , it is a long time ago, but I used it as an additive not oil relacement, it is very viscous so not much is needed, I think a teaspoon per litre, and we added naptlalene ( moth balls) to up the octane rating, the alternative was toluene, too much of the last two causes carbon deposits.

[Craig]

Ok, just refilled. Got 17.16 mpg. This time I added one quart of new motor oil for the first time. I am experimenting, with different additives and will share my results as you all have.

I have a new engine, 2500 miles, so it is a good test bed. Since it is not all gummed up, ashed up or clogged up injectors.

One other note, for the first time today, I noticed a sticker on the pump indicating low sulfur. I may have been getting it before and not seen any notices.

I am going to Wallmart and get the additives mentioned too.


QUOTE=Craig;6593]Ok, just refilled. Got 17.16 mpg. This time I added one quart of new motor oil for the first time. I am experimenting, with different additives and will share my results as you all have.

I have a new engine, 2500 miles, so it is a good test bed. Since it is not all gummed up, ashed up or clogged up injectors.

One other note, for the first time today, I noticed a sticker on the pump indicating low sulfur. I may have been getting it before and not seen any notices.

I am going to Wallmart and get the additives mentioned too.[/QUOTE]

Just filled up. Got 16.49 mpg with the qrt of new motor oil. I think I have some 2 stroke oil in my garage and will add it in the morning. I will add a little at a time and shake the truck to make sure it mixes. I did not have it with me when I filled up.

So far: No additive 15.5, ATF 17.16, motor oil 16.49

Since last fill up, diesel up from $2.95 to $3.06

[Jferg65]

I have a 96 burb 2500 with 4:10's in it, stock wheels, remote mounted pmd, and a K&N air filter in stock air box.

I have been running power services along with 1/2 ounce 2 cylcle per gallon now for 5500 miles. From my clculations I've averaged 19.45 per gallon. This is a commbination of city and highway.

In regard to the 2 cycle, it definately quiets down the motor. Power services seems to be doing the job, and will change over to the winter version shortly.

I'm surprised with the milage, I know that is about tops for the truck with 4:10's. Yes even I am skepticle, however I have kept precise records since the truck was purchased.

Just my two cents

[Craig]

Since I realised I have been driving with excess front brake drag, I am going to start all over with my testing of different fuel additives. I put on new brake hoses and calipers and filled the tank with no additive. This will establish my new base line.



QUOTE=Craig;6593]Ok, just refilled. Got 17.16 mpg. This time I added one quart of new motor oil for the first time. I am experimenting, with different additives and will share my results as you all have.

I have a new engine, 2500 miles, so it is a good test bed. Since it is not all gummed up, ashed up or clogged up injectors.

One other note, for the first time today, I noticed a sticker on the pump indicating low sulfur. I may have been getting it before and not seen any notices.

I am going to Wallmart and get the additives mentioned too.

Just filled up. Got 16.49 mpg with the qrt of new motor oil. I think I have some 2 stroke oil in my garage and will add it in the morning. I will add a little at a time and shake the truck to make sure it mixes. I did not have it with me when I filled up.

So far: No additive 15.5, ATF 17.16, motor oil 16.49

Since last fill up, diesel up from $2.95 to $3.06[/QUOTE]

[996.5T]

I've been running stanadyne for about a month now and it has increased my mpg by 1.3. But I read on there web site that you could not use to much of this stuff. My truck has dual tanks and if I add stanadyne to both tanks my mpg goes way down only when I add half of what I should is when I see the increase. I was told that running motor oil or tranny fluid would mess up the lense in the IP. Do any of you run the #9 restor if so is it very helpful does it hurt mpg or help?

[Shlep]

I have a #9 resistor and have noticed a small drop in mpg but not enough to complain about, I tried the 2 cycle oil this past week and noticed a quieter running engine and a small increase in mpg but no definate numbers yet. I'll leave that to next weekend when I hit the highway so I can get a better average.;)

[grancito]

You may need to boost your turbo pressure, I noticed black smoke when putting the boot down fast with the #9 resistor. Now with the mechanical wastegate the pressure is up at low throttle so the boost is there when you boot it.

[RmGuY0708]

ATF is what they put in the offroad diesel to dye it red. So if your using the tranny fluid just hope you dont have your tank dipped and get a fine. Just letting you know

[grancito]

Someone posted that a lab test (required by law) to determine the type of red dye in your fuel, will get you off if it is from ATF.

[deerefanatic]

Someone posted that a lab test (required by law) to determine the type of red dye in your fuel, will get you off if it is from ATF.

That\'s correct... The dye has both a chemical signature as well as a visual one........

[Shlep]

You may need to boost your turbo pressure, I noticed black smoke when putting the boot down fast with the #9 resistor. Now with the mechanical wastegate the pressure is up at low throttle so the boost is there when you boot it.

I was thinking along the same line but figured it might be because of mine still having the OEM exhaust and restricting the engine, not making for use of the added fuel.

[grancito]

Mine is stock too, just poke a bit more air in, it'll find it's way out.

[terry1608]

Does it matter what type of ATF is used as an additive? Is the cheapest on the shelf as good as any other? Some people had mentioned that motor oil was not designed to be burned. I don't think tranny fluid is either. Just wondering.
Thanks

[grancito]

Engine oil has chemicals to remove the acids produced from combustion, ATF doesn't.

[Jferg65]

I've been watching this thread after responding and just wanted to add another two cents of what I have been experiencing. I ended up having to run about 20 - gallons through my rig with no additives, then just topped off and went back to my 1/2 ounce 2cylce per gallon and the power services. WOW! what a different truck. It runs and sounds like a totally different machine. Better performance because of the cetane boost and overall smoother running, can't ask for more.

[Craig]

Been away from the forum for awhile and wanted to share the results of changing from 4.10 to 3.42 gears. I went from the 16+ to 18+. 2 MPG:D

Wanted togo with a Gearvendor but to much money for me. Fortunately A shop took good care of me and put a set of 3.42 gears in the front dif and rear dif for $1050.00 including the electronic device to recalibrate the speedo.

I did find out that you can get an inline gearvendor for about $1800 new instead of the one that bolts onto the trans ($2800 I think)

Truck has all around better performance with the new gears. Very happy.